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Had to have mine out, yesterday. I know that my body will not process fat as well, now (no more huge, gorgeous cheese plates <sigh>), but wondered if any of you have had to adapt your diets for this, and what interesting, low-fat things have you come up with? I mean, yes, lots of fruits and veg, but any particularly yummy things? I never have been a huge meat or fried foods eater, but I notice that I use a lot of other fat...even on salads, I want a crumble of gorgonzola and some toasted nuts, or a trickle of chili oil on steamed veggies. How do I make things yummy without the added fat?
Thanks for your input : ).
Thanks for your input : ).
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Re: Lack of Gallbladder Diet
Sat, January 21, 2012 - 1:16 AMMay I suggest you do a study on the use of Red Root (Ceanothus spp.). It helps the digestion of good fats and the elimination of bad ones. I use a tincture of thirty drops twice a day. -
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Sat, January 21, 2012 - 3:23 AMThank you. I'd read about a lot of enzyme supplements and such, but hadn't seen this. Looks very useful! -
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Wed, January 25, 2012 - 4:54 AMafter mine was taken out, I was very careful for 6 months. Any time I did use oil I would take the amount I normally used and then cut it down to 1/3 and used that. Like when I would use mayo, what ever I usually scooped out with a spoon or knife I would toss back 2/3 of what was on the knife or spoon, same with cheese. I switched to olive oil and colza oil. If I didn't I would feel nausea after eating. It amazed me when I did measure out how heavy handed I had become with oils and condiments.
I eat more fruit, seeds/nuts and whole grains. But i do eat cheese and dairy but once a week and more goat than cow. Your body will adapt. But that is when you can forget about being aware. For myself around the holidays and since it is winter. Other people have cooked and invited us to eat since it is France keep in mind the butter and fat, so I don't make a fuss and enjoy, but last Christmas, after 5 hours it felt like a jagged rock was going through my whole digestive system, which it kind of was.The pain, the congestion and your bowels will protest until you can get it out.... Your body can still produce that "sludge" and still develop stones.
There are a lot of remedies out there, but the one I have tried and hold true for myself is doing raw apple cider vinegar 2x a day. When I was in California, I did Bragg's, out here I just find whatever bio raw apple cider vinegar with fermentation cultures in it. It ius based on our bodies being to alkaline due to meds, processed foods, drugs, alcohol, etc., etc., Our internal body is acidic and some doctors/nutritionist believe
that helps put us back in balance and being balanced helps in a preventive way.
There are arguments though. But from what I have experienced is that it works for me. I have lost weight keep measurements of oil intake, I prefer healthy oils now, I consume goat dairy better than the over processed cow dairy. And all in all I seem to eat pretty much what i want now that 6 months healing period has past. But the first 6 months I avoided butter, mayo dairy and stuck to leafy greens and fish. The french always recommend eating mustard with oily foods, they say it helps digest the fats. That also seems to work for me or a vervain or ginger tea after a oily meal is also something I use if I can't avoid saying no.
When I east properly as I mentioned I never need the help of enzymes, like papaya pills, when you have less oil intake you will be able to process and when you have a bowel movement it will no longer be constipated, which is one symptom most paitents complain about and noted before an operation.
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Mon, January 30, 2012 - 3:09 AMThanks. Exactly the kind of anecdotal info I was looking for : ). I've not had any problems yet, but I've never been heavy handed with oils. I have been avoiding cheese and checking the fat grams on the rare packaged food from Trader Joe's, but so far, so good. Fingers crossed! -
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Tue, January 31, 2012 - 4:16 AMSorry about all the typos, that was really due to a really bratty little weasel running back and forth over the keyboard while I was typing and add the odd off day for posting on Tribe.
I forgot to mention with the Goat cheese but also Sheep cheese, really does digest differently than cow because of the process. Both goat and sheep do come in a blue form and also feta is great for crumbling on a salad as you mentioned you like.
Healthy oils such as olive oil, I now use cold press extra virgin olive oil, they say it is better, but I just like the way it tastes, but also cold press nut oils are healthy oils. I love walnut,almond and sesame oils tasty! So add a little chili powder and mix it up and use that!
So it is important to keep healthy oils in your diet and necessary, so it is said by nutritionist....
Cooking with oils, I do use ginger and the raw apple cider vinegar, or an old off red wine ( since I do not bother buying balsamic vinegar), mustard, lemons and or limes to cut the grease. My mom who was Korean would always be teaching me while cooking about the use of fresh herbs and certain vegetables & what their benefits were.
Also when ever I am in the mood for chips, which I don't go for because of the salt and way too much oil, I bake kale leaves or cadre leaves with a mixture of seeds and nuts in the oven until crispy. Pop popcorn with an air popper and sprinkle with garlic powder/paprika/cayenne powder & this herb mix with less salt that you can find in health food stores called A. Vogel, which I believe Whole Foods does carry, and I am sure Trader Joe of their own or something of that kind as well.
I did buy a sunflower oil that you can spray on, I do find you do use less that way and it seems it is more distributed on/over greens better.
I also switched to soy substitute creams. I am used to tofu so it seemed fine for me when cooking. But some brands do use a lot of oil, so that is another thing I look for just like you do when reading the labels for fats and oils.
When I am in the States, I do use raw butter, it does seem easier on me to process, most butter in farmland where we live is basically "raw". and yummier in my opinion....
I so stay so far away from margarine. But I have tried the olive oil spreads, kind of nice I must say and they really are not like margarine, that is when I buy the bio kind from health food stores.They look different and melt very easily. I do stay away from lard as much as possible. but If I make Empanadas or have any thing deep fried or even bacon, I have soup or salad the rest of the day. I do make my own mayo with colza oil and a fresh egg. It keeps me aware of the oil content!
I drink lots of teas that I make, again is also good for digesting fats. but I know a certain cups of tea at starbuck's or where ever else is hi as well is a fast food meal with all the fats and sugar for a whole day + in one cup. I stay away from sodas, which took me a while to change, unless it is soda water with natural sodium bicarbonate (good for digesting) on occasion and even more rare: ginger ale/beer, most sodas with their ingredients now a days will cause problems with digesting fat and effect your kidneys...
But Bragg's Raw apple Cider Vinegar , for me I believe is another good preventive for me to make sure of stones not occurring again, because, even though the gallbladder is removed, one can get stones again or have problems with blockage because of the "sludge". Their website says it all, saying it is a good preventive for stones of all organs, diabetes, gout, high blood pressure, etc., etc., etc..... I keep trying to get my hubster to do it for his Chron's, but he is not having any of it, don't blame him.... when I do a shot glass of 1 teaspoon in the morning and and another 1/2 hour before dinner, I do a little dance.... and it is not a happy dance..... but when I don't do it for a week, I notice in a few different ways....
But good luck on your healing process and relearning a better healthier way of eating and enjoying. It is a yummy adventure!
But keep me posted of your finds and progress, but I am also curious to see other postings for new ideas and information from others with experiences.
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Tue, January 31, 2012 - 6:44 PMNo, I don't have gout. Totally different thing, nothing to do with the gallbladder.
So far, all I've changed is my cheese eating habit, and cut out what little packaged foods I used to eat, and there haven't been any issues. Maybe I'll just be lucky <fingers crossed>. I don't drink soda, or use any oily bread spreads, or drink milk, so those are easy. I've been eating lots of salads, which hasn't been bad at all, since I've always had a very light hand with dressings. Tried sushi for the first time, this evening, so we'll see how the healthy fat works for me. I tend to eat sushi once weekly, so I hope it goes well : ). I generally use EVOO to cook with, and not a lot. I love olives and avocados, so I'll likely test those before long. Really happy that it's been good, so far. I'll definitely try reintroducing the goat and sheep cheeses first, when I'm brave enough to try cheese again, so thanks for that.
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Mon, January 30, 2012 - 5:39 PMGot the gout , huh ? 12.01.30
There are shots for shingles, ya know ?
Painful . i know . Go full macrobiotic , no dairy , and no carbs . i . e . , no pizza , pasta or beer ( the three [ 3 ] major lazy food groups :)
You are looking at fruits and nuts , fish and orange & green vegetables & olive oil from now on . Bragg's ® is good as is plain old low sodium soy sauce or our own Hawai'ian Huli-Huli sauce HAHAHAhahah [ soyu & ginger ] !
Think " Japanese diet " w/ brown rice & fish , i'd suggest , or that fancy American Indian rice
Don't talk to me about stones . i am a guy . Ever piss glass n e one ¿ Ouch
Sorry . ...
Best of luck √ /s, Dr. Dosh
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Re: Lack of Gallbladder Diet
Wed, February 1, 2012 - 11:18 AM<Any time I did use oil I would take the amount I normally used and then cut it down to 1/3 and used that. >
That sounds like a really good idea.
I am sorry you hear you have been under the knife Grr
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Fri, February 3, 2012 - 10:36 PMI'm sorry to hear this, too, Grrr. Heal well and be strong. You'll get accustomed to the new diet no doubt, but it must be very hard right now.
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Sat, February 4, 2012 - 7:42 AMThanks, Christie : ). I'm doing fine, so far. Being cautious about the fats, but it's been much less of a big deal than I had anticipated. Read too many anecdotes online, I guess <g>. Except for cheese, it hasn't been that big of an adjustment...I just cook at home more. -
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Wed, February 15, 2012 - 8:34 PMHome cooked food is better for you, anyway. I should take the time to cook more often. I'm glad you're adapting well to this new diet so far, Grrr.
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Mon, February 20, 2012 - 10:11 AMI am so glad google brought me to this page today, I am having my gallbladder removed next month and am a little nervous about it, I eat a fairly healthy diet as it is but since my doctors suggested the surgery I have realized that the amount of fat in my normal meals is so much higher than I thought it was. I will definitely be using some of the suggestions I just read.
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Tue, February 21, 2012 - 10:33 AMGeez, I must have really missed something. I had my gallbladder out in 1997. I never changed my diet and no one ever told me to do so. -
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Mon, February 27, 2012 - 6:04 PMWell, it looks to me, at least, that varying from the no-gallbladder diet you are striving for can't be all that bad, then, within reason.
How's it going lately? Are you still missing cheese a lot? -
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Tue, March 6, 2012 - 9:16 PMNope...ate a ton of it, today, actually. I would definitely advise caution in the beginning, as it worked well for me, but I seem to be able to eat anything that I like now. So, cheese, olives, avocados, chocolate...all back in my diet where they belong : ). Yay!!
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