replacing white sugar

topic posted Fri, October 14, 2005 - 1:10 AM by  offlineAshley
I'm trying to cut out refined sugar from my diet, and I'm curious if anyone has suggestions for what and how to substitute in its place. Of course, the idea is to cut most of it out completely (not sunstitute at all) but some things I'm not quite willing to give up. Like fresh hot cookies. Yum.
Any ideas? Suggestions? I already make some baked goodies with mashed overripe banana, but I'm interested in agave nectar, honey, maple syrup, etc. none of which I have really baked with.
Thanks!
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Ashley
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    Re: replacing white sugar

    Fri, October 14, 2005 - 7:08 AM
    sucanat
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      Fri, October 14, 2005 - 9:10 AM
      I like honey, but I rarely bake so I am not sure what you would use as a baking substitute. I also found that changing what I ate in general helped - for instance I used to only ever drink black teas, but I love them with milk and sugar. Now I drink mostly herbals (because who would want to kill all that awesome flavor with sugar??) and I have my Earl Grey with honey. I also switched to making my own "granola" with dried fruit instead of coating it with honey or syrup to sweeten it. I don't touch pop anymore - I usually do slices of ginger in sparkling water, or lemon/lime/whatever.

      I know what you mean about certain foods you can't give up tho....I loves me chocolate, and I don't care for chocolate substitutes at all. i just watch how much I consume now.
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      Tue, October 18, 2005 - 9:55 PM
      The New Whole Foods Encyclopedia says:

      Sucanat, the trademarked acronym for sugarcane natural, is the evaporated and granulated juice of sugarcane and blackstsrap molasses. Its sucrose level is 90 percent. Although once an unrefined product, it no longer is.

      So, if one is looking for unrefined sweeteners, I would say sucanat is a no-go.
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    Fri, October 14, 2005 - 9:22 AM
    I've experimented with my favorite baking and suggest you do the same. Sometimes baking is a bit dissappointing, though.

    To replace with honey use way less than the amount of sugar the recipe calls for. Fructose is outrageously sweet so you use tiny quantities. In a lot of my baking I use prune paste or apple sauce in place of fats, which also lets me cut down on sugar as they're sweet. Also, check out some diabetic recipies -- some of them are good. But I would discourage much replacing sugar with splenda or any junk like that.
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      Fri, October 14, 2005 - 9:27 AM
      honey is what i always use, but here's a question: i work at Save-On (i'm the natural foods girl ) and we carry a sugar replacement called Stevia in our department...

      Does anyone have experience with this? i hear you want to use less than you do sugar (as with splenda, etc)?
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        Fri, October 14, 2005 - 10:26 AM
        I've been defaulting to this cookbook for years, gave a few to friends. All recipes are free of added fat, refined sugar or white flour. Fruit purees, juices, and whole grains throughout.
        There's recipes for cheesecakes, sauces, cakes, breads, muffins, cookies, bars, fruit desserts and PIE. Also lots of good nutrition info, without a word of reference to Health Valley's prepared foods.

        Baking Without Fat, by George Mataljan
        1994 Health Valley Foods ISBN 0-9633608-1-7
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        Fri, October 14, 2005 - 3:23 PM
        Stevia is great for coffee/tea- it does take much less than sugar- but I've never been able to get it right in baking. unless I'm making something w/ fruit- that's when stevia seems to work best.
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          Tue, April 1, 2008 - 7:20 PM
          i just discovered stevia for myself. it's delicious and tastes slightly herbal, though honestly i would barely notice the difference between it and sugar if my mom hadn't made a big deal out of it (she hates it...i have no idea why..it's just sweet...)

          anyway, it's said to be 100-300 times sweeter than sugar, which is what makes it a calorie-free sweetener. they have it in packets too. i'm all for sugar but stevia is worth checking out.
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        Tue, October 18, 2005 - 9:58 PM
        Never used this in baking...

        If one is looking for an unrefined sweetener, one will have to use whole powdered (green) stevia rather than a refined extract (white powders or liquids).

        Many folks enjoy stevia, many others don't like its flavor... it does have a slight flavor, like any other unrefined sweetener (or artificial sweetener for that matter).
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    Fri, October 14, 2005 - 1:34 PM
    I used to make muffins all the time with frozen apple juice concentrate.

    Keep in mind that if you are substituting a wet ingredient (apple juice) for a dry one (sugar) you will have to add more of another dry ingredient to keep the mixture the right consistency; a little more flour works fine. And undersweeten your confections in general.

    And whole wheat flour will not cause your blood sugar to jump like with white flour. As far as your body is concerned, white flour IS sugar.
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      Fri, October 14, 2005 - 4:08 PM
      I bake challah on Fridays (got some rising right now!), and for the last month I've been using whole wheat flour instead of white and maple syrup instead of sugar. The first time I tried this, I used less water, since maple syrup is a liquid, but I found that the dough actually wanted all the liquid in the original recipe in addition to the maple syrup. This might be because whole wheat flour wants more liquid than white, or it might be that I'm just not very precise in measuring my flour. (To be really precise with flour, you need to weigh it instead of using a measuring cup, but I am Lazy People. *smile*) So now I use all the water in the recipe plus the same amount of maple sugar that I used to use of sugar, and it works fine. However, this is bread, not cookies, and the sugar is a much smaller percentage of the total ingredients than it would be for cookies and cakes.

      My advice in substituting maple syrup (or honey) for sugar is to start out by reducing the other liquid in the recipe by the amount of liquid sweetener you're using, but pay attention to the consistency of what you're making and give it more of the original liquid called for if it seems too dry. This is, of course, easier in a recipe you've made the "old" way before!

      I really like the suggestion of using apple sauce to replace fat (and some of the sweetener). I might try this in my challah sometime soon!
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    Sat, October 15, 2005 - 4:39 PM
    another book to check out on it:

    (im not the seller)

    cgi.ebay.com/Wholesome-S...cmdZViewItem

    WHOLESOME "WHOLE WHEAT" SUGARFREE COOKING

    Finally, a wholesome cookbook featuring whole wheat flour, whole grains, nuts, rolled oats, wheat germ, sunflower seeds and healthy fruits and natural sweeteners such as honey, sorghum, maple syrup, molasses and the sweet herb Stevia, an off the shelf dietary supplement available in your local health food store.

    Enjoy 280 pages featuring 545 delicious recipes to help you enjoy whole natural foods. No refined sugar, no refined white flour. Olive oil used in many recipes.

    You'll also find information on seasonings and mixes, canning and freezing, soaps, and health remedies.

    Learn how to cook and bake with wholesome sweeteners such as:

    Honey
    Maple Syrup
    Sorghum - This syrup is made by boiling sorghum cane juice. It contains B vitamins and minerals like calcium and iron. It is delicious in molasses cookies.
    Sucanat - Made by dehydrating cane sugar juice, sucanat has great flavor and is rich in minerals. It is probably the easiest exchange in recipes calling for sugar.
    Stevia - a super-sweet, noncaloric herb classified as a dietary supplement. A conversion chart is included in the cookbook showing Stevia sweetness equivalents.
    Resources can be found in that back of the book for purchasing these wholesome sweeteners or check out your local health food store or local supermarket.

    This Amish written book is not available in major bookstores. You will find great wholesome recipes for breakfast, breads, shakes, salads & dressings, soups, gravies, meats, and vegetables.

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    Hundreds of recipes throughout the 280 page cookbook. Sources provide for purchasing these healthy ingredients.

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    Sun, October 16, 2005 - 8:20 AM
    speaking as a cook: in some recipes, cookies being a good example, sugar does more than just sweeten. It's crystalline structure helps 'cut' the fat (butter) to give it the texture we love (it's called mouthfeel in the cooking biz.)

    So using stevia, apple juice, splenda, whatever will SWEETEN the item but not let it rise properly or feel the same.

    For my diabetic friend I use splenda and whip/beat the batter more tham usual trying to incorporate more air bubbles to get it to rise properly. For cookies the TEMPERATURE of the butter is critical. it has to be almost room temp so the cookies will spread in the oven. Also make sure the oven is at the full temperature and heated up before you put the cookies in - I've preheated the pans too on occasion when I had a really stubborn batter.

    Swtiching to non refined flour will also inhibit spread - be sure to add more moisture to help the bigger molecules moe and spread.

    Honey adds moisture, but is not as sweet as sugar - you may want to up it with stevia too. Honey also brings flavors to the party ( love that bee vomit!) Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes it gives a woody taste that's not appropriate. It's also not a one to one replacement.

    hope this helps
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      Sun, October 16, 2005 - 11:38 AM
      Yes! Thank you!
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        Sun, October 16, 2005 - 2:36 PM
        You can also use Rapidura which is really raw sugar or Brown rice syrup.
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          Tue, October 18, 2005 - 10:03 PM
          Rapadura is the only unrefined cane sugar, to my knowledge, that's available in stores here. It's made by Rapunzel, which also uses it in their chocolate bars and semisweet baking chocolate, which I could not be more pleased with. :-)

          Use the same amount as you would white sugar.

          Only thing I haven't been able to do with it: carmelize it for creme brulee. It burns ;-)
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    Tue, April 1, 2008 - 7:41 PM
    Agave, wonderful agave. I am just starting to cook w/ it. I'm using half to a third of what I would have used for honey. Mostly I use it in tea and on my Irish oatmeal.

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