So this week I am now trying to cut out all HFCS out of my diet.
Any comments?
Suggestions?
Recipes?
Meals?
Places to eat out? Not eat at?
I am doing this because of various tummy problems that my docs and family suggest my be cause in part because of the stuff.
Any comments?
Suggestions?
Recipes?
Meals?
Places to eat out? Not eat at?
I am doing this because of various tummy problems that my docs and family suggest my be cause in part because of the stuff.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 21, 2008 - 8:53 PMRead labels. I've been cooking for 35 years and have yet to see a recipe that actually called for HFCS. Buy foods that have not been processed. Cook your own food. Avoid white bread/flour everywhere. -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 6:07 AMDrink real juice and water. If a label lists HFCS as an ingredient, I don't buy it.
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very similar to agave
Yesterday, 11:34 PMMore and more raw food recipes call for agave syrup, and it turns out it is very much like HFCS (not too healthy):
www.living-foods.com/articles/agave.html
Other than that, the only home recipes I remember explicitly calling for HFCS were some old-school pie recipes, like pecan pie.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 7:19 AMmy grocery shopping bête noire...yeah, it's really only in processed foods. so check the labels and ditch anything that lists it. and you'd be surprised at some of the places it shows up. it's a cheapo filler additive for mass production so it's not going to show up in a restaurant. (unless they serve cheap bread. or if you have soda etc). it's a virus.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 7:13 PMI already am a label reader, I have been somewhat suprised at the ease of finding foods that I can eat
Since I am allergic to grapes I have my fave pure juices I drink. It seems like alot of juices that use HFCS also use grape juice.
Thanks for the thing about resturants, since I do travel due to work they are a necessary evil. It was a concern
Read somewhere that if you eat locally made baked goods you are safer from HGCS
I am also trying to stay away from just plain corn syrup as well
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 11:26 PMCheck everything as people have stated before.. I have even seen HFCS in bread, which I thought was ok, before I started checking... -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:33 AMI'm beginning to think they put corn syrup in everything, just because they can! I look at so-called "healthy" breakfast bars, and almost the first ingredient is corn syrup. On the flip side, I just bought some old-fashiond cokes in glass bottles that are sweetened with cane sugar instead of corn syrup, just to see what they taste like. They are from Mexico. -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:42 AMYup, mexican coke is made with sugar - same with many sodas from Asia. -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:58 AMI had a Coke in Hong Kong twelve years ago- took a sip and blinked, looked at the label. Cane sugar. -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:01 PMYou can get that same coke at Costco now. They come in the old style bottles and it just has cane sugar in it.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Sat, May 3, 2008 - 5:38 PMbe careful. Not all Jones Soda is HFCS free. I find that much of the sodas that come in bottles do have HFCS.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:03 AMI can't get over simple dried fruit – loaded with HFCS. Or sugar. It's FRUIT! Strawberries are naturally sweet! Why do they *suddenly* need sugar, just because they're dried?
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 5:47 AMYou may enjoy this article:
www.baumancollege.org/newsite...pia.html
This part was an eye opener:
" By visiting the Corn Refiners Association website—www.corn.org—one learns that there are many other sweeteners made from corn, including maltose, maltodextrin, dextrose, glucose, and crystalline fructose. Who could fault even the most intrepid label-reading consumer for not knowing this? The list of corn-derived products also includes amino acids, vitamins, monosodium glutamate, mono- and di-glycerides, citric and lactic acids, cornstarch and other starches, as well as vegetable oils, margarines, and shortenings. Thousands of supermarket staples contain products made from corn, mostly in the form of starches." -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 4:29 PMAuthor Michael Pollan (and others) suggests: try shopping around the edges of the supermarket, and avoid the inner aisles. The periphery of the store has all the healthier stuff: fruits, veggies, dairy, meets, 100% juices. Even the salad oils will be the asile near the salad greens.
The inner aisles typically have all the processed foods - all declaring their healthiness and naturalness on their flashy packaging :P
As Pollan says, the silent foods (veggies, fruits, no packaging) are the healthy ones, while the processed foods have all that tricky marketing (New! All natural !! Heart-healthy!!) on the packaging...!
Pollan's "Eaters' Manifesto": Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.
By food, he means real food, something your grandma might have recognized - and not "edible food-like substances" (processed food.) -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:40 PMPollan also explains why HFCS is in everything another book, "The Omnivore's Dilemma." This is a good book
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Yesterday, 5:57 PMlet's just not eat. that's the only way we can really stay healthy.
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Re: 1st Thanks to you all and...
Sun, April 27, 2008 - 10:53 AMSo its been one week
1st Thanks to many of the ideas and hints given in this thread. Many I already knew or did but it never hurts to be reminded again about good shopping habits and such. The goal of major grocery stores is for you to over-shop and to buy their high profit items. NOT to supply healthy wholsome food and to keep us healthy.
2nd A report on one week without HFCS. Since I have a strong background in nutrition and food chemitry coming up with a basic plan was not tough, but your suggestions helped with the eating out , I mean they really helped. On day 4 I came home fell into bed and slept for 12 hours, sounds like detox to me. On Friday I had a dose of HFCS(on purpose). The next morning, my 'mild' IBS symptoms were back. So for me this is one 'food' I will choose not to put in my body.
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Re: 1st Thanks to you all and...
Sun, April 27, 2008 - 11:38 AMI cut HFCS out of my diet about a year ago. Now if I eat something I can immediately tell if it's in it because it's waaay too sweet but has little flavor.
My biggest problem is with conventional Canola Oil, believe it or not. I get MAJOR gastrointestinal distress if I even have a little bit of it. Organic (aka non-GMO because nearly all conventional Canola oil is a GMO) Canola Oil doesn't affect me the same way.
Makes you wonder about those GM foods (HFCS is also considered a GM food).
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Sun, April 27, 2008 - 2:19 PMWell I suspected over prcessed foods were a problem and this week with HFCS just proves it. For the next month or so I will be traveling quite a bit. So developing a new habit pattern of no HFCS will be enough. I was wondering what next thing to remove from my diet would be so maybe I will try the overprocessed oils. -
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Sun, April 27, 2008 - 7:22 PMits even in triscuit crackers for goodness sake! you think triscuits are healthy with whole grains and fiber but theres a fair amount of HFCS there too. the current thought is that HFCS in all the processed food people consume is a major contributor to the rise of diabetes in this country. :( -
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Sun, April 27, 2008 - 8:59 PM100% agree. The problem with HFCS is that it isn't readily available for energy for cells, so your liver instantly metabolizes it into fat.
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Sun, April 27, 2008 - 11:38 PMre: triscuits
triscuits are made by nabisco. nabisco is owned by kraft. and i think, if i'm not mixing up my gigantic multi-national corporations here, that kraft is owned by philip morris. the parent of all of these companies? something called altria group.
it's a gigantic conglomerate whose focus is to take your money, feed you unhealthy shit, get you smoking cigarettes, get you addicted to their garbage, and probably (this part's unconfirmed, but i wouldn't be surprised) have the pharmaceutical arm of their corp give you some crap pharmies that will supposedly cure the condition that their products caused you.
maybe this is tmi but the moral of the story is that you'd be hard-pressed to find a "food-product" that is created by any of these monsters that's actually good for you. they don't make money off of you when you're healthy.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 3:33 PMI got this link off Treehugger.com
tinyurl.com/2n4jta
"See which of the country's largest food producers are behind your favorite organic snacks." -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 3:48 PMdang. i knew about a whole bunch of those (i threw a shit-fit when hershey's bought dagoba) but there were plenty more i didn't know about.
all the more reason to buy whole, organic, local foods as much as possible. (though to be honest i probably won't break my cascadian farms frozen peas addiction any time soon)
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 7:54 AMIs this where I start venting about the governments subsidizing of farming corn to the point that they produce so much they stuff it into everything we eat and we have become a corn society? -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:05 AMDon't forget how we'll also be using corn as fuel in biodiesel, which is already driving up the food of cost so that not only do we have an energy crisis, but a food crisis as well. Yum. corn. -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:07 AM"cost of food" not "food of cost." that's what i get for posting before finishing my coffee.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:20 AMWell I grew up on a farm/ranch in Colorado and can tell you that Corn is the only crop that is grown in all 50 states. The stuff can grow anywhere.
If you want to make money, in my home town, growing Olathe Sweet Corn is the way to go, if you can get them to sign you up and sell you the seed. It is delish - makes you not want to eat any other corn - but its my understanding that 100% of it is consumed as corn on the cob, and I'd assume the byproducts are turned into silage for the cows to supplement their winter feed when they aren't up in the mountains.
You have to do crop rotation though w/ corn or heavily fertilize cause it zaps a lot of the nutrients our of the soil. At one point the big industry was grain for Coors, then it was potatoes, moved on to Pinto beans, and now its this Olathe Sweet Corn, which is so popular the town of Olathe now has a festival every year. Which has grown into quite the industry.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 8:23 AMI have a cousin who is allergic to corn. She probably has one of the healthiest diets out there. -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 9:01 AMSome of the cobs are being coarsely ground for small animal bedding. I use it as cat litter. If you can stand it, you can scoop the solids, soak the litter and let it dry in the sun so it can be used again.
On the subject of corn...last year we grew popcorn for the first time. I was amazed how different it tasted from the store bought kind. I just had no idea popcorn could taste so good. -
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Mon, April 28, 2008 - 9:06 AMI tried the corn litter, but my dogs kept eating it! LOL. The pine litter seems to work the best for us.
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Yesterday, 5:59 PMand i bet the government puts it there for mass mind control!!! ;)
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Re: Corn vs HFCS
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 5:43 PMWell living in New Mexico and the great southwest of the USA you can't not eat corn. But the weird thing is I can eat corn tortillias, hominy and so on.... when its close to what comes out of the field. Its when its been made into Mr Hyde Corn it seems to be the monster in my tummy. -
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Re: Corn vs HFCS
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 9:05 PMBecause it's no longer really corn. -
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Mon, April 28, 2008 - 9:10 PMI dunno. Commercially grown corn is so genetically modified, only good corn would be organic. -
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Re: Corn vs HFCS
Mon, April 28, 2008 - 9:12 PMyeah, pretty much.
We've resorted to growing our own Heirloom Organic corn and just eat that. At least we can trust it. If we can't eat it fast enough we just freeze the cobs for later eating. -
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Tue, April 29, 2008 - 8:44 AMIf anyone travels to Vietnam you gotta try the corn there - it's soooooooooo different then the corn here. It's sweet and mushy, like creamed corn, but on the cob (in a good way). It's a yummy breakfast. They serve it on the street just steamed in the stalk. Yum!
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Tue, April 29, 2008 - 8:32 PMmmmmm
that sorta of sounds like our roasted corn here, I like like to sprinkle some romano cheese on it and navarna -
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Re: High Frutose Corn Syrup
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 1:57 PMA friend of mine insisted on planting corn in my bakcyard, despite the soil being poor and not enough sun. We got two tiny ears about 3 inches long - but they were delicious!
I'm still on my HFCS hunt. It's in my bread and my yogurt. I guess I'll have to do more organic shopping. It's not in the fresh baguettes my bf gets from Costco.
There's an argument that HFCS is not any worse than fructose, but my research shows it puts stress on the liver and delivers more fat into storage instead of usable calories. So it does kinda make you fat and unhealthy. My liver almost failed a couple years ago due to a harsh prescription drug, so I'd like to save my liver for other things besides corn syrup. -
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 2:39 PMI don't remember the name of the guy or the name of his book, but there is an author out there who makes the claim that the main reason corn syrup of any kind is bad for you is because we've become, largely, a single-food culture. Without even realizing it.
America today relies as much on corn for food as the Irish used to rely on potatoes. Which means one year of lousy crops, and we're all starving!
People keep protesting corn-based biofuels, claiming it's driving up the cost to eat. I say, go ahead and fuel our cars with it, and stop making "food" out of corn syrup. Use natural sugar if you have to.
(Side note: I was eating a "healthy" cookie yesterday. Oatmeal Raisin. The #1 ingredient? HFCS. Seriously.) -
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 3:20 PMIf I pick up a package of oatmeal cookies that doesn't say rolled oats as the first ingredient, I don't buy it.
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 3:53 PM>>>People keep protesting corn-based biofuels, claiming it's driving up the cost to eat. I say, go ahead and fuel our cars with it, and stop making "food" out of corn syrup. <<<
I say, stop using land that we could grow food on (organic, diverse foods, not weird GMO monocrops like corn), and don't waste that earth growing fuel to feed our transportation addiction.
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