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I have a parrot, and am aware of the fact that over-heated Teflon can kill a bird instantly. This makes me wonder how healthy it is for humans... Back in the day, canaries were used in mines to tell when the air became toxic. If the canary keeled over, you better get out. Should we again heed the warning from our feathery friends?
I just recently replaced my Teflon coated pans to protect my bird's health, but I have been reading that there is almost universal blood contamination in Americans from Teflon, and it is known to cause cancer and birth defects. I only bring this up because this is the healthy food tribe, and it seems that cooking on Teflon is anything but healthy... Please be aware of your cookware, as well as your food.
I just recently replaced my Teflon coated pans to protect my bird's health, but I have been reading that there is almost universal blood contamination in Americans from Teflon, and it is known to cause cancer and birth defects. I only bring this up because this is the healthy food tribe, and it seems that cooking on Teflon is anything but healthy... Please be aware of your cookware, as well as your food.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, December 28, 2005 - 5:33 PMTrue that. I used to sell cookware, and I advised everyone to go with steel or anodized aluminum. Teflon really blows. -
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Wed, December 28, 2005 - 7:53 PMyeah, teflon is not as "inert" as once thought - it also leaches i thought, forget about the fumes. naked aluminum isn't a good idea though - links to alzheimer's and other neurodegeneration. ceramic lined or steel is probably the way to go.
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Wed, December 28, 2005 - 8:37 PMAluminum cookware isn't so hot either - parkinson's, alzheimers, etc.
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Wed, December 28, 2005 - 10:22 PMAnodized aluminum is not naked aluminum. It is, at least reputedly, completely inert. But if you're hesitant, use your intuition and get something else. But NO teflon people. =) -
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 10:55 AMaluminum still is aluminum - "naked" means AL in any form in contact with food. "reputedly inert" - you mean like teflon's reputation for being inert for YEARS?
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 3:19 PMYou should do the research. I had to cause I used to sell cookware. I have seen no research showing dangers from anodized aluminum. Tests show that little to no leeching occurs once the aluminum is anodized. In fact, chances are, if you take antacids, you are getting something like 1000mg of AL, as opposed to maybe 3.5 mg from using aluminum cookware. Fact is, aluminum is one of the most naturally occuring metals on this planet. I could give you the links, but it takes no time at all to find studies that show that anodized aluminum is inert. Try finding studies that show that it is hazardous. I haven't found any. And don't think people aren't looking. With all the scare about Alzeimers, aluminum is undergoing close scrutiny from many directions. Still, anodized aluminum has passed tests so far, and is a very easy-to-clean, light-weight alternative to stainless steel and cast-iron. I'm not trying to say people should get it, but demonizing it just because its aluminum is not necessary. As of yet, the judges are still out as to whether or not aluminum itself is even bad for you, or if its a reactive quality of aluminum with other environmental factors. Really, chances are you're getting more lead in your water than you'll get aluminum from your cookware.
Again, Dupont is being brought up on charges for concealing evidence as to the toxicity of teflon. However, even with all the studies and eyes on anodized aluminum, nothing notable suggests any health risk associated with it. It is, for all scientifically measurable purposes, inert. -
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 4:59 PM>As of yet, the judges are still out as to whether or not aluminum itself is even bad for you, or if its a reactive quality of aluminum with other environmental factors.
precisely. there are a couple of studies (from the '90's if i remember correctly, but it's been a while) that showed some correlation between aluminum exposure and memory loss. Alz and all the neurodegenerative syndromes or whatever you want to call them take a long to manifest - as in decades. so my point is - for myself and for anyone i can influence (family and friends), if there is a hint of possibility of a link between dementia and a substance, i steer them clear of it - to go on the side of caution.
you know - it's like the beef/mad cow stuff that went around the UK - there was a scientist for years saying a protein was responsible in perpetuating dementia in a "viral-like" propagation pattern, but without a virus. the guy went on for a couple of decades, but in the end he was right (in fact he got the nobel prize in medicine for it) - bet you those people who got mad cows from eating infected beef probably wished they had listened.
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 5:16 AMAgain, I think we're all much more likely to die of a full on ecological collapse before these long-term detriments will affect us, but by all means do what you like. I wouldn't want anyone here to bend to my will, but I feel as an ex-cookware salesman a responsibility to cull any fears about what I feel to be a safe product.
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Mon, March 6, 2006 - 11:11 AMlet the chemist tell you - anodized aluminum wont leak Al by any appreciable degree. anodized aluminum means oxidized aluminum, which is a very very very stable (and natural) coating.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, March 3, 2006 - 6:14 PMI know this post is a bit old, but my husband and I are very concerned about cooking on teflon, so we decided to purchase this set this weekend. Is this set safe to buy?
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Wed, July 19, 2006 - 10:20 AMHi,
I was looking for Circulon 2 cookware, as they mention about there hi and low heat wave technology, not sure what to buy here.
Is anodized Aluminium non sticky? what can be bought giving non sticky properties without hazards is the question. We've gas (maily in Asian countries) and not hot plates, does that matter for cooking wares, whats best suited then ... Anodized AL or Teflon (which I think is not after reading all this) ...Stainless Steel is sticky... Aluminium is sticky, Cast Iron is sticky.. tell me what to buy then ?? -
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Wed, July 19, 2006 - 6:42 PMEnamel-coated cast iron rules! Non-sticky, non-reactive, easy to clean, made of glass. I love mine - only problem is it's so damn expensive! But sloooowly I am replacing all my pots & pans with this. Comes in pretty colors, too :) -
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Sun, October 21, 2007 - 6:31 PMlike Le Creuset? -
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Sat, November 3, 2007 - 6:38 PMI was at Ikea the other day and saw enamel-coated cast iron there. Maybe a more affordable alternative to Le Creuset.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, December 28, 2005 - 7:15 PMno teflon is a good move.
that means don't give it to goodwill...either throw it out, or if you don't want it in landfill, figure out creative ways to use it (planters, whatever).
good ol' stainless steel is great, and if you can swing it in your budget, le crueset (sp?), which is porcelain lined cast aluminum.
and every kitchen, i believe, should have one cast iron skillet. it will last you your entire lifetime...and it's great for healthy cooking.
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 1:12 AMSO yeah.... I need this clarified.
Are you putting the parrot in the over heated Teflon? Because that could BE the reason it could kill a bird instantly. Just saying.
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 6:34 AM
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 7:14 AM"Are you putting the parrot in the over heated Teflon?"
No, no, no! Of course not, silly!
It is the fumes caused by the overheating of the Teflon. Now, according to DuPont, the makers of Teflon, proper use of the pans does not overheat. However, I saw a 20/20 a while back where they actually tested the temperatures of "normal" cooking, and the pans do get hot enough to release these fumes when doing activities such as frying and sautéing in them, which is normal cooking to most people... I also read on the internet that in humans Teflon toxicity can present itself with flu-like symptoms, but everyone already has traces of the stuff in their blood due to it's high use. -
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 9:07 PMHere off my blog is a link to some original studies. Incredible. DuPont was sued by the FDA or whatever, but for a pittance.
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 8:27 AMThe FDA is worthless.
That is funny that the same canary/mine analogy is used on that link.
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Thu, February 16, 2006 - 5:19 PM"Are you putting the parrot in the over heated Teflon? Because that could BE the reason it could kill a bird instantly. Just saying. "
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Thu, February 16, 2006 - 5:22 PMhi ivy --
the parrot's not dead, he's pining for the fjords! -
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Thu, February 16, 2006 - 11:34 PMI got a great deal for a cast iron 9 pc-set, only $159 (which is very good for cast iron)..you can get it in red, green or blue..the shipping & handling is 20bucks. link is below.
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Mon, February 20, 2006 - 9:35 AMLodge is great...and I love the additional little "assist" handle...
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Fri, October 19, 2007 - 11:57 AMSince when is iron green for cryin out loud!
...just sayin...now I'm done....
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Thu, October 25, 2007 - 9:57 PMthe parrot's not dead, he's pining for the fjords! >>
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Sat, October 27, 2007 - 5:45 PMhe's dead!!!! you nailed him to the perch!!!!
sorry, couldn't resist....
and for a comedy about cast iron cookware, see if you can find a copy of an old indie movie called "eating raoul". ;-).
stainless, cast iron, le crueset....they're all good re: healthy. the whole 'nonstick thing' i think is for a cooks' convenience, not for our health (and if it kills birds, what's it doing to us humans in the long run?)
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 7:27 AMwhat is a good pan to get thats kinda slippy like teflon.
i need to replace all my stuff anyway (peeling)
and the iron skillet is to heavy for me to use right now.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 9:02 AMLe Creuset's coated cast iron is easy to take care of, but heavy.
Cast Iron is heavy and a little bit of a pain to take care of (esp in high-moisture areas) (esp the new stuff)
Stainless steel is a little bit of a pain to take care of and fairly light.
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 3:59 PMa, What's wrong with glass? -
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 5:41 PMhmmm... THAT is a good question. I would think it perfectly great. The only thing against it I can think of is that it is stickier than a seasoned iron skillet, but I may be wrong. Also, energy costs associated w/ production, breakage, etc. But those are just questions... sounds like a good alternative to teflon for sure.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 9:27 AM"Season" the pan by heating very hot with oil in it then use salt and a rag to polish it - takes several rub downs...
and yes even stainless can be seasoned it just doesn't last as long...
once seasoned NEVER scratch with metal utensils or wash with soap/scouring pad (unless you plan on re-seasoning), just rinse (while still hot) and wipe with a cloth or paper towel.
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 12:29 PMyes, i've had good results with a seasoned pan....if i've had to reseason it a couple of times because something got burned on the bottom, no problem.
while i like cast iron, i do also really like stainless steel (for the lightness of the pieces especially if they're big)
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 1:45 PMSo, why is the george foreman grill such a GREAT product - it certainly has a non stick surface, like teflon. I don't think "Teflon" is manufactured any more -- that was so 70's people. The new non-stick cookware I think, shouldn't be called Teflon... it's new stuff? Once it starts to scratch and peel, I try to replace it immediately. -
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 3:11 PMIt's still Teflon...Dupont teflon is still the mainstay for non-stick cookware coming from Analon, Circulon, and most of the mid-range non-stick cookware. -
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Sat, January 7, 2006 - 1:16 PMIsn't Caphalon also a form of teflon? -
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Sat, January 7, 2006 - 2:35 PMcaphalon is a brand name - they make all sorts of stuff like stainless steel cookware.
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 4:49 PMi thought teflon still was made by dupont - i could be wrong. -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, December 30, 2005 - 5:16 AMDupont makes most teflon, but All-Clad gets their non-stick made by a different company, in Penn. I think.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 10:53 AMCalphalon has come out with a new technology called Infused Anodized Aluminum. It has some of the non-stick functionality of teflon, but is a solid piece of anodized aluminum and is not a spray on adhesive toxin. Of course, new evidence might show that this is bad stuff too, but from what I understand of the chemistry (little I'm afraid) there shouldn't be a problem. -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 1:58 PMI got a set of stainless pots and pans for Christmas and I love them! I feel much safer feeding my family out of something with no warnnings attached. I will still keep one no-stick pan though. Some things just are way to sticky for stainless. -
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 5:22 AMOh, btw people, if you do use non-stick, for some reason which we need not address, do NOT...I repeat, do NOT use sprays like Pam. They have a chemical in them that eats away at teflon and actually increases the rate at which it leeches into your food. Be informed and healthy.
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 8:04 AM"I got a set of stainless pots and pans for Christmas and I love them! I feel much safer feeding my family out of something with no warnnings attached. I will still keep one no-stick pan though. Some things just are way to sticky for stainless."
Same here!! :) We kept one small and one large non-stick pan for eggs because they're just too sticky for stainless steel. -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, December 30, 2005 - 10:17 AMA lot of "sticky" issues can be temperature related. If the pan is to hot, chances are whatever you are cooking will stick to the bottom. Also, sometimes things appear to be sticking to the bottom, but if the temperature is not too high it just need a little more cooking time and will lift right up. I have Calphalon Hard Anodized, and I rarely have sticking problems, mostly just with scrambled eggs, which I can't keep from sticking to the bottom of a teflon pan (not mine, my mother's) either! Also, for me, having cooked at my mother's WAY too much on her teflon collection, I find that I don't like the way some things come out (fried potatoes, for example) when cooked on the non-stick versus regular.
Also, keep in mind that if you have a self-cleaning oven, it has a teflon coating which it heat to a temperature of 800-1000 degrees during the cleaning process. All birds (and probably humans, really) should be removed from the household during this process.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, December 30, 2005 - 5:45 PMmaybe glass w/ a bit of oil?
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Fri, October 19, 2007 - 11:59 AMI have a SCANPAN and it is great!
I've been wondering about teflon, and AL, and am at a loss for what to do. The SCANPAN seems to be safe, But I've only read the info on their site.
Anyone know about it?
even though this thread is like, 2 years old?
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 1:35 PMYou guys are scaring me. I've been cooking mac & cheese for my son in a non-stick pot since he started eating solids. Since he's a picky eater that's been a lot of meals. And I heat the water to a boil over high heat. This thread is giving me the thought that I may have been a bad mommy. I'm telling hubby that the non-stick pan is going in the trash. If he doesn't like it I'll sit him down to read all of this.
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 1:42 PMYou're not a bad mommy. They spend lots of money to misinform us. It's hard to find the truth sometimes.
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 5:47 PMNot a bad mommy, Lianna. We've been scammed is all. You know what's even scarier? This is just the tip of the iceberg....
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 6:00 PMYou're not a bad mommy. You couldn't know. Think about all the mothers that fed their kids nothing but microwave dinners. They're not bad. They're just not informed. Life is a long process of acquiring knowledge, and I'm sure your pots are not the biggest source of toxins in your child's life. We live in a world just coming into awareness of all the poisons we've created. As long as you're open-minded and willing to sit down and do some research, there's no reason to feel bad for any choices you've made. We're all just doing our best with what we have. -
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Fri, December 30, 2005 - 6:54 PMBTW, check out Mercola.com. Some of his stuff is probably bunk, but he tends to put out health information (esp in regards to unsafe products) before I see them from others. Anyway, don't take my word for it. >>>Reading Rainbow<<< -
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Wed, January 4, 2006 - 2:32 PMJust wanted to make sure this didn't disappear, so that new arrivals get some important info. Teflon bad....grrrrr. -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, January 6, 2006 - 7:52 PMPersonally, I don't use teflon often. But I do use it occasionally as it's useful for eggs and a few other low-temperature applications. I think that the major problem with teflon is when it's used at higher temperatures.
Teflon should NEVER be used to brown or sear something and teflon pans should not be heated empty. As I said I use teflon only occasionally and only when my stainless or cast iron is not appropriate.
I believe that using teflon sensibly and in this careful manner is probably reasonably safe. After all, I like to smoke food and eat barbeque and I can't imagine that the carcinagens in all that smoke are particularly GOOD for me, but then being happy because I enjoy my food IS good for me. Perhaps there's a point (after reasonable precautions are taken) when you can worry too much.
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Sat, January 7, 2006 - 9:13 PMhi comrade --
yes, it's true, how you feel about your food is probably more important than worrying about everything...
however, it's easy to get options to teflon for those who haven't already chosen their pans in their kitchen...
it's also easy to get options to barbecue with charcoal briquettes and lighter fluid too (not saying you use those, but i know many still do, when there's wood chips that can be used instead, and other ways to ignite the BBQ). -
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Sun, January 8, 2006 - 6:47 AMI love food cooked over good wood. You can taste the difference. You can really taste it when food is cooked over bad wood (think moldy or otherwise gross). -
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Sun, January 8, 2006 - 9:18 AMbest trout i ever had:
cooked over a campfire in the rocky mountains, in a cast iron skillet ;-).
actually, aside from sushi might be the best fish i've ever had (and i like fish)...this way back in 1974...
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Fri, January 6, 2006 - 7:56 PMPS. When a teflon pan that I own gets a scratch on it, or is damaged from someone overheating it, I dispose of it immedately and replace it. If you can't afford to do this, then you probably shouldn't use teflon.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, January 6, 2006 - 8:36 PMCast iron is till a great all around pan. I even use it for eggs over easy with no sticking. I'm frankly less worried about a little oil in my diet (I like olive oil for lots of things) than about the chemicals folks use to avoid it.
I used to have some glass pans, but they do have a tendency to stick and retain heat too well. Burns stuff, doesn't simmer! I've seen chefs who use teflon pans only for omelets. -
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Fri, January 6, 2006 - 8:47 PMsure the little flakes of titanium come off in my eggs...
but my wife's breasts are firmer, and I can keep my erection for days now!
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 11:44 AMThe National Beef Board says to "avoid galvanized cookware because the zinc found in galvanized cookware can be leached out by fruit juice, creating a poisonous liquid. I work for a very health conscious food company, Celebrity Foods, that offers home delivery of gourmet food and safe, durable cookware, so I have to keep up with this stuff. I've started two blogs related too, if ya wanna check 'em out - www.celebrityfoodsalumni.blog.com & celebrityfoods.wordpress.com. -
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Thu, February 16, 2006 - 10:45 AMhi alice --
thanks for posting this link, NPR had run a story about teflon containing a carcinogenic chemical recently... -
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Fri, February 17, 2006 - 10:41 AM"Le Creuset's coated cast iron"
So does anyone know what the coated stuff is? Plus lots of other enamel coated cast iron pans claim to have a non-stick interior. Do they sell just plain cast iron anymore? -
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Mon, February 20, 2006 - 9:13 AMI see them ALL the time at the local junk auction. Check yard sales, auctions, thrift stores... -
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Fri, March 3, 2006 - 6:15 PMWe have a budget of $200 and under so please give recommendations, if that set is not safe. -
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Fri, March 3, 2006 - 6:17 PMI really wanna buy this set homestore3.com/11picicocose.html but if it has health hazards please let me know
homestore3.com/11picicocose.html
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Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:09 PMfarmers market, 9th and washington every friday from 10-2pm in Oakland ,CA
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:24 PMYou can get plain cast iron at a lot of places. I bought a friend of mine a skillet for under $30 at Target. Lodge is a good brand. You can Google it and find the cookware in a lot of places.
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Tue, March 7, 2006 - 8:57 AMI worked at Dupont in Delaware for a short time...one day, while doing some work at their fluoroproducts research facility, I grilled (no pun intended) the researchers there about the safety of Teflon. There's lots of use and care information that consumers don't receive when they buy non-stick pans and the info I got from them certainly changed my opinion of non-stick cookware.
As Comrade also mentioned, the Teflon guys said that you shouldn't heat up a non-stick pan without anything in it and you shouldn't use it for high temperature cooking. NEVER put non-stick cookware in the dishwasher and you should rarely use soap to clean it. They said that all you should really do to clean it is wipe it with a soft, damp cloth. Don't use metal utensils, because you might damage the coating. If it becomes damaged or discolored, don't use it anymore.
I've mostly switched to anodized aluminum cookware since then, but I have purchased a non-stick griddle, because I hate how my eggs stick to the anodized aluminum pans. I'm VERY careful with it, though. I move it to a cool burner when I'm done cooking, I just wipe it off with a soft cloth.
Please keep in mind that ANY non-stick coating, even if it didn't come from Dupont, has the same fundamental fluorocarbon chemistry. It's ALL bad. Be aware of non-stick coatings on other things, too, not just pans. I purchased an Good Grips ice cream scoop that was coated with a non-stick substance and within a few uses, the coating started flaking off. I haven't seen evidence to indicate that ingesting the flakes is harmful (supposedly, it just passes right through you), but honestly, I'm skeptical of just about anything with fluorocarbons.
On the subject of anodized aluminum, I also try to be careful with that, as well. I don't use metal utensils and I don't cook foods that may have a higher acidity, such as tomato-based foods. For those, I use stainless steel. -
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Wed, July 19, 2006 - 1:58 PMhi gina --
i think the info you got from grilling your coworkers points to a problem:
for those of us raised in teflon land, we've been taught, don't heat the pan without anything in it.
yet, for stainless and cast iron, it's actually better to bring it up to heat before putting the food in (having oiled or buttered the pan first, of course).
and yes, it's the chipping of the finish that makes the pan unusable for cooking, an issue that doesn't exist with either stainless or cast iron....
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Wed, July 19, 2006 - 10:22 AMHi,
I was looking for Circulon 2 cookware, as they mention about there hi and low heat wave technology, not sure what to buy here.
Is anodized Aluminium non sticky? what can be bought giving non sticky properties without hazards is the question. We've gas (maily in Asian countries) and not hot plates, does that matter for cooking wares, whats best suited then ... Anodized AL or Teflon (which I think is not after reading all this) ...Stainless Steel is sticky... Aluminium is sticky, Cast Iron is sticky.. tell me what to buy then ?? -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, July 19, 2006 - 1:21 PMCast Iron really isn't too sticky. The only thing I've found doesn't work well is eggs. I can cook pretty much anything else in my cast iron skillet. It just has to be seasoned properly and well cared for. Oil after every use.
I still have one little teflon pan I use for eggs (just haven't found anything else that works...) Everything else is Stainless or Cast Iron. Glass is good, too, especially for baking. -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, July 19, 2006 - 1:52 PMi found the trick with eggs in cast iron was to be sure the pan was up to heat before putting the eggs in, making sure it's well oiled or buttered, whichever you choose to use, and then definitely mind the little suckers while they're in there.
and if they do stick, a good soaking with water before cleaning the pan tends to bring all the stuff off (as does scraping with a spatula).
i also find any pan that's porcelain lined works well for cooking eggs, too.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, July 20, 2006 - 9:39 AMIn addition to pre-heating the pans, you should also let foods that are cold from the refrigerator come to room temperature before cooking them. -
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Tue, October 9, 2007 - 9:56 PMAh, this is so true!!!
I do that a lot, for instance, I get my eggs out of the fridge at least a half hour before cooking them, even if you eat some meat (which is less and less for me) put it out of the fridge so it takes time to get closer to room temperature and your meat will be tender, it just makes sense.
What a temperature shock otherwise!
But hey, cooking in a pan is great but I do cook a lot in my electric steamer!
It's fantastic!
Thanks so much for thread, I always had in the back of my mind that Teflon was not safe, anything that's too easy and chemically engineered smells bad to me...
S.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, July 19, 2006 - 1:55 PMif you're cooking with gas as opposed to eelectric, that's wonderful! there's much more heat contro with gas stoves than electric.
i'm not sure i'd use an aluminum pan of any kind unless there's something such as porcelain between the aluminum and the food...
stainless steel can be rendered pretty non-sticky just by seasoning the pan (coating the inside with veggie oil, upturning it over paper overnight so the excess oil drains off, then wiping down). so, with the right care, stainless isn't sticky at all. i just got a new set of heavy cast stainless steel, seasoned them all, they're a dream!
cast iron is the same, by the way...it needs to be seasoned with oil when it's first purchased before using.
also, from what other friends have told me, the temp of the pan before you put sticky stuff in is definitely important (in other words, if the pan is up to temperature for the thing being cooked, and oiled, there's much less sticking). -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, July 19, 2006 - 5:02 PMI think stainless steel, cast iron and glassware are the safest. I switched away from teflon last year and was not happy with how hard it was to clean stainless until i discovered those copper scrubby thingies. . .they work really well! -
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Wed, July 19, 2006 - 9:13 PMall hail the copper scrubbie thingies...
though i must admit, i use the green scrubbie thingies, and they work just as well.
oh, another tip i found somewhere....if something is really stuck on the pan, fill the pan with water, add a little bit of soap, put it on the stove and bring to a slow boil. this will often loosen the really stubborn stuff.
i'd rather go to the extra effort to clean a pan with stikum on it than have teflon gases in the house, myself...
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, July 19, 2006 - 6:40 PMI have a cockatiel myself, & for years have been trying to figure out what I can use to cook things that tend to stick when I refuse to use nonstick pans like Teflon. It isn't fun to cook eggs at all! But then again, I'd rather my bird as well as my own health be safe!
But is there any product out there than is safe for both humans as well as our pets? I'd love to find something I can cook things like eggs, pancakes & other things in so they won't stick as badly.... but the hard part is trusting that the other options out there won't affect my health, or kill my bird for that matter! Any suggestions?? -
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Wed, July 19, 2006 - 7:53 PMcast iron skillets are not so bad. -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, July 20, 2006 - 12:30 AMsighs... what to do with the seemingly beautiful Teflon my Grandma gave me for Christmas last year? I am so stressing out.... "Sorry Grandma, Teflon kills birds, and people, but mostly birds. Nothing personal... have an organic beer..." lol -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, July 20, 2006 - 10:00 AMwell shawna-
i bought a teflon pan about a year ago
the teflon started coming off but,
being a bear of very little brain - i didn't really pay any attention to it
after reading this thread i looked at it again - most of the teflon is gone from the main area of the pan
so i'm going to
a. throw the pan away
b. go to ross and buy a stainless steel one (ross is a good place for cooking stuff)
c. find out what will help clean the teflon out of me!
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, July 20, 2006 - 11:23 AMyes, the gifted teflon dilemma....
well, if you've got a pet bird, and you've got a door on your kitchen, it's probably going to be fine to use those pans occasionally for things that don't have to be brought up to high heat for very long (as long as the teflon isn't chipped).
i'm thinking sauteeing fish, warming canned veggies, cooking cream of wheat....
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Thu, July 20, 2006 - 9:47 AMA well seasoned cast iron pan is naturally "no stick".... -
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, July 20, 2006 - 9:50 AMOops...ah yeah...like they already said...;o))
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Thu, July 20, 2006 - 3:56 PMI'm with you, Buck. If there is no Teflon left in the bottom of the pan, one must wonder where it has disappeared to? Seriously, if you were a teflon flake...
i do have a few cast iron skillets that i cook with, which took some getting used to. The non-stick factor was really a matter of getting to know the pan. My eggs always come out a little country-fried looking no matter what though. But the extra iron around the edges puts my mind at ease. And you can normally find these pans at Salvation Army for a good price. Antique stores too sometimes. That's the way to go.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Wed, October 10, 2007 - 8:22 AMTeflon is nasty stuff. I used to work in a lab that used Teflon all the time. My advice, don't use it near food stuffs. Silicone is another one I would avoid. You don't want that stuff in your body.
My mom's also a polymer chemist and she feels the same way because she knows what in that stuff.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, October 26, 2007 - 8:55 AMSteel cookware rocks!! It's easy to clean, just soak in warm soapy water, heavy enough so that if you accidently hit the pan it doesn't go flying off the stove and best of all you can use any kind of utensils on it. Forks, spoons, knives it doesn't matter--no chemical coating to worry about destroying.
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Fri, October 26, 2007 - 6:25 PMI've heard about C8 in our blood for the past few years. However, Teflon is a brand name for the non-stick compound. Does C8 exist in other non-stick cookware as well?
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Re: Healthy Cooking and Teflon
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 12:46 AMI heard that it isn't good for you to cook with it. I stopped using it years ago before I heard that. I am very rough on Teflon and didn't want to keep replacing it because I recked the finish and it would start to peel and possibly get in the food.