I recently read an article about parkinsons disease... and how taking milk out of the diet of somone who suffers from this illness, improves their symptoms. As well, I have a friend who has a son who is Autistic. They recently cut dairy out of his diet in hopes that his language skills would be effected... and the results are quite impressive from an inocent bystanders poin t of view. Anybody know anything more about this... is it possible that digesting cow milk and products maid from cow milk are actualy bad for everyone at the rate that we consume it in the U.S. and if so, what are the long term overall health reprocussions?
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Re: Milk and the brain
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:13 PMArticle link?
And how soon before bone diseases set in due to lack of calcium and vitamin D? -
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Re: Milk and the brain
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:30 PMBelieve it or not...
There are actually other ways of getting calcium... (Ever heard of green leafy veggies?)
And vitamin D, thus I do believe that the bone diseases could theoretically be avoided.
Plus... her son’s favorite form of calcium supplement is Tums... and she has been recommended to give it to him by her doctors.
As well, dairy products impede ones ability to absorb iron... thus for people who have an iron deficiency it is very important to avoid dairy when taking in Iron fortified foods... in fact vitamin C helps the body absorb the iron (the opposite of dairy.)
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 11:14 PMohhh ... article link... had to look it up again and found others as well... hope this is what you are looking for...
www.news-medical.net/
www.smart-kit.com/s259/milk...the-brain/
and an interesting one on crones disease... which I have a dear friend who lost her mother to this disease and now is dying from it... and has a 4 year old son... so this one hit me close to home and is kind of scarey...
members.tripod.com/ibdisr/info/milk.html
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:15 PMMy oldest son was diagnosed with a seizure disorder. After years of meds, he wanted to try something different so he could try and reduce or get off the meds. He became a MD who also went to Naturopath school. The first thing he did was promptly test him for food allergies.
Guess what?
Cow's milk
Wheat
Chicken eggs
ALL BAD!
He took those OUT of his diet and he is medication FREE and symptom FREE. Really.
So, yes, I believe you. Keep on doing the right thing, Mom! -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:33 PMI am bipolar... and I suffer from Migraines... one of the meds they have me on is also used for seizure disorders... the Doc said that they are all closely related and effect the same parts of the brain... thought you comment was interesting... and am curious if I wee to make these dietary changes.... if I too could be med free someday. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 4:15 PMI sometimes get migraine - but very rarely, and usually only after some sort of shock, like being mugged or in a car accident.
I've found the best way to keep migraines at bay (usually for years) is to stay as low stress as possible (yoga, meditation, emotion management), plus the semi-daily baby aspirin, which thins out the blood a tiny bit, so it can get through any constricted blood vessels (often the case with pre-migraines, a mis-appropriation of the fight or flight reflex).
I also keep some feverfew in the vitamin cupboard. This likewise relaxes the blood vessels; I only take it when I suspect a migraine may be coming on (such as when I get a pre-migraine "aura" feeling.)
Also, I read that there is an underground community of men who suffer from cluster headaches (like semi-permanent migraines.) These men surreptitiously grow magic mushrooms for their own use, since psilocybin is metabolized much like serotonin in the brain. Apparently, this has been very successful at avoiding the headaches. And no, it's not supposed to be at a psychedelic level; just at a low, therapeutic level.
Feel free to google.
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 10:58 PMDo you kno anything about the effect of horse milk compared to cow milk? In stead of cow milk I'm using horse milk since a few months. I'm feeling better, but I don't know if horse milk has the same effect on brain as cow milk...... But I think horse milk is completely something different..... -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 11:05 PMI know nothing about horse milk... and never thought to drink it realy... probobly because I don't have horses... but I have had sheep and goats... and have at time drank their milk. I realy don't know if enough to say anything about any of these alternatives. Good Luck on that one... you are most certainly the only person that I know of to try horse milk as an alternative... and I have one question... how does it taste? -
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Re: Milk and the brain
Thu, April 24, 2008 - 11:15 PMI like it much more than cow milk! It is much lighter and has much lesser fat. It is sweet, but not too sweet.
I don't have horses either... But lucky for me, not far from were I live there is a horse farm specialized in producing horse milk.
It should be very beneficial for general health. I started to drink it together with my sister and mam when my sister had to recover from breast cancer. And she did recover very well!
This milk is supposed to make you strong and imume (is this written correct?) from lots of diseases... I don't have detailed info now at hand - but if you are interested, i can tell you about this later... -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 8:27 AMthe concept of drinking milk from another mammal is unique to humans. No other animal nurses off another after it's been weened from its mother. In principle, and probably fact, horse milk is no more right/nourishing for a human than cow's milk. A pig doesn't nurse from a sheep, a goat doesn't nurse from a mule. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 9:22 AMHumans from nearly every culture have been using milk from other mammals for millenia, with no ill effects until very recent times...which points to the way our animals are being raised, and what they are being fed as the culprit for said ill effects...we use grass fed local organic raw goat and cow milk in my family with healthy success.
I was just re-reading an old article from Mothering about a child who completely recovered from vaccine induced autism mostly by a great change in diet that included the total exclusion of all gluten, dairy and soy. I can't tell you what issue it was, because I had dug it out to loan to my husband's co-worker who was having doubts about continuing his children's vaccinations after a young cousin began displaying signs of autism after receiving a scheduled vaccine. Mothering magazine would be a good source for researching the effects of diet on disease, they have an online forum, open to everyone. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 11:59 AMAura, YES!!
People talk about the evils of dairy, but it's all about the production. Animals are treated like machines for the most part.
We get milk from a farm two miles outside of town, where there are two cows who spend their days wandering acres of green pasture.
Fresh, real-whole-milk that hasn't been skimmed and boiled and homogenized.
I've known kids who seemed lactose intolerant until they simply switched to storebought ORGANIC milk.
Fresh milk is a whole 'nother level of digestible nutrients and enzymes.
Remember that if enzymes are allowed to survive, they help digest the proteins trouble some folks.
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Re: Milk and the brain
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 9:36 AMAbsolutely right, Soooz.
Also, google CF/GF diet and you will find loads of resources about casein free/gluten free diets for autism. It's the casein in the milk that causes problems.
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Re: Milk and the brain
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 11:52 AMYou will find a wealth of information regarding diet and autism at these sites:
BodyEcology.com
westonaprice.org
articles.mercola.com/sites/current.aspx
or tinyurl.com/4heakf
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Re: Milk and the brain
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 3:00 PMBroccolli is an excellent source of calcium in addition to other good stuff. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 4:07 PMA lot of the anecdotal evidence about non-dairy (etc) diets affecting things like autism, etc are either placebo or not statistically greater than placebo. Not to say that placebo is totally bad; but that the purported effects described here have been refuted pretty carefully in a number of studies.
I googled all this a few weeks ago when a friend of mine in Chinese med school was checking this out; I've since lost the links, but they're easy enough to find if you google for these kinds of diets. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 4:27 PMI've heard of all sorts of benefits to being dairy-free. The autism connection is quite astonishing. I quit dairy several years ago when several actresses over 40 claimed it was one of their secrets to great skin. I thought they were right. I've since been through a major illness and recovery, retested for allergies, and began eating dairy again. Not happy with my skin, will cut it again to test. If only cheese wasn't sooooo good!
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